How to get a link from an .edu domain (part 2)

 
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Just go to the Harvard H2O Playlist Beta project, register an account and make a “Playlist”. Then point a link towards that page.

That way you get Wedding Favors and Lord of the Rings Online Guides and Exploits and not :

H2O playlists are more than just a cool, sleek technology — they represent a new way of thinking about education online. An H2O Playlist is a series of links to books, articles, and other materials that collectively explore an idea or set the stage for a course, discussion, or current event.

But wait there’s more : Dirspace directory (no offense intended to the owner, but that’s how directories “get” that SeoMoz PageStrength ?) and Viagra (of course through ezinearticles.com).

And this on top of my other posts about .edu spam:

Submit your business or company to Webxperience! and Webotopia directories.
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18 Comments so far

Sander said:
May 16th, 2007

Hi Christian,

Thank you for pointing this out, it was not intended to spam the search engine index with a .edu backlink for the directory dirspace to gain a higher pagestrength. Gladly yahoo didn’t pick up the link.

Imo a backlink from .edu or .gov will not increase search engine rankings or the trustworty of a website.

May 16th, 2007

I myself, think they are a little above any other link from a trusted website.

But it will increase the PageStrength, which is a “standard” these days, for rating a directory.

Once again, it’s nothing personal, and I searched those results, without the intent to find directories there. :)

MPG said:
May 22nd, 2007

It would be logical for search engines to regard gov and edu links as higher quality as they can’t be bought for money (at least not in theory). Also foreign (non US) links could be higher value as they have traditionally been harder to get, sometimes you have to be a citizen if that country, sometimes you have to order the domain on the local language.

Anyway I have no idea if it is like this but it would be a logical way to filter some SEO spam.

Josh said:
May 24th, 2007

EDU sites have a lot of link popularity and trust. It’s relatively easy to pop an EDU page to the front page of Google — The keyword “ringtones” is a great example.

John said:
June 6th, 2007

Hi Christian – Are you sure about .edu & .gov links increasing the Page Strength of a Directory to a great extent?
Being a directory owner, I have to check all these variables everyday. I have tried the technique myself with one of my directory –but it is not useful at all. 10-20 .edu & .gov links will not even increase .5 PS.
These days – .edu BLOGs belonging to students are selling posts/links ad they are not that rare. But I don’t buy them –cause I know -they don’t help either in SERPs or in PS.

Check this directory ( Owned by Terry)- http://www.linksjuice.com –it is PS6.5 (have 3 legit .edu links)
And my own – http://www.pagerankluck.com PS4. (has 19 .edu, 3 .gov links –some of which has been acquired by what you call SPAM — but is it really SPAM?) I am leaving 3 links here –am I spamming your BLOG? I think NO.

Because I am participating in the discussion which is legit.

Back to Topic — PS algo is much more wider and mainly depends on factors.
a) Link Popularity
b) PR of the site & URL
c) Alexa
4) Tecnoratti

Check both these directories. And you will see that –.edu and .gov links are nothing but normal links in terms of PS.
I am realy surprised to hear it from an SEO expert like you. SEO people should discard lots of misconceptions like this. Otherwise ignorant webmasters would be misleaded.
Thanks

June 6th, 2007

John,

Some parts of the PageStrength algo are very easy to trick, like the Technorati links (spam 50 blogs and you’re done), Wikipedia links (spam 50 fogotten pages and you’re done), edu links (search google for “powered by wordpress” site:.edu, and comment 50 times and you’re done, make 50 del.icio.us accounts and bookmark your own directory, etc etc.

Other parts of the algo are pretty much harder to obtain (Alexa, PR, Dmoz etc) but still doable.

It’s easy to make a PS 7. That doesn’t mean the that directory is a quality one.

Really now.

John said:
June 7th, 2007

Hi Christian -thanks for the reply.
I agree with the first para. And about Alexa and PR -both of them can be achieved witout much trouble if you have a good pocket.

Infact -Alexa lots its relevance because you can always manipulate it through auto-surf bars.
But –DMOZ – well there has been a great debate going on on DP about how corrupt its editors have become and how honest editors are being shown the door.

So yes –PS can easily be Manipulated and Good PS does not mean a Quality site.

My point is about you saying directories manipulating PS by getting links from .edu link and MY VIEW IS THOSE .EDU LINKS DON’T HELP MUCH IN PS.

Most webmasters are not aware about the importance or whatever of PS. Its the crazy directory owners like me who get paranoid about it.

Anyway thanks.

June 8th, 2007

Page Strength? Is that like Page Rank? If so PR is over rated. The sand box? It does not exist. I put up a 1 page website and added a few inbound link and got on the first page on google in 10 days and stayed there.

I’m not convinced PR means a whole lot except google trusts you and as you progress past PR 4 google is rating your website as an authority website.

Thoughts?

June 8th, 2007

Page Strength? Is that like Page Rank?

http://www.seomoz.org/page-strength

Josh said:
June 8th, 2007

The sand box? It does not exist. I put up a 1 page website and added a few inbound link and got on the first page on google in 10 days and stayed there.

It depends on the keywords that you are going for. Was the query an exact keyword match of a .com, .net, or .org domain name? It also depends on the competitiveness of the keyword. In Google, type in intitle:”keywords” and see how many other pages are competing for that query (by having the keyword in the title element).

June 8th, 2007

The search phrase was easy to get because there was little competition. And I went after just one term. That is why two or three links got me on the first page.

The sand box effect has been described as getting indexed and then dropping for some time. Some say months. Some say getting out of the sandbox is a function of inbound links.

My experience says there is no real sandbox.

June 8th, 2007

Thank you for clarifying PS vs PR. You guys teach me new stuff on a daily basis.

Josh said:
June 8th, 2007

The sand box effect has been described as getting indexed and then dropping for some time.

I think of the “sandbox” as the aging delay that new domains usually go through. You can still rank well for exact query-domain matches during that time (.com/.org/.net), and even rank for hundreds of keywords, but I find that the competitive keywords usually don’t have a chance until after the domain is 6 to 18 months old. It depends on how competitive the keywords are. See the Wikipedia entry on “Sandbox” for more…

June 8th, 2007

Is that Domain or website. In other words if the domain is parked for several years and then is hosted and a website added, does that negate the sandbox effect you write about?

From everything I read I’m lead to believe the sandbox effect starts from when the website is hosted.

I would tend to agree with the increased difficulty in gaining ranking on more competitive search terms while the website is young.

I am working on two websites right now. One was hosted for several years on and off. It is much easier to rank on competitive search phrases. The new website is harder to get ranked for the more competitive search terms. What complicates making an assumption is they are in different markets.

moneymaker said:
August 10th, 2007

aww.. that trick has been abused. its seems that all the sites mentioned above and the one ive created had all been deleted :(

“We were not able to find the requested object.”

DeMo said:
December 20th, 2007

Verry good thanks !

DeMo said:
December 20th, 2007

The Best !Hy

engrmizan said:
February 1st, 2008

hey i congratulate u.

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