Pagerank prediction tool test, Part 2

I previously wrote part one of a pagerank prediction tool test. Well now it’s the time to see the results of all those pagerank prediction tools out there :

Google Toolbar Pagerank for the test websites, BEFORE the 18.02.2006 Pagerank export:

http://www.xperts.ro – PR 5/10
http://www.webxperience.org – PR 5/10
http://www.lamit.ro – PR 5/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – PR 4/10
http://www.seopedia.org – PR 0/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – PR 0/10
http://www.bullguard.com – PR 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – PR 0/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – PR 4/10
http://forum.xperts.ro – PR 4/10

Real, current Google Toolbar Pagerank for the test websites, AFTER the 18.02.2006 pagerank export:

http://www.xperts.ro – PR 6/10
http://www.webxperience.org – PR 5/10
http://www.lamit.ro – PR 5/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – PR 4/10
http://www.seopedia.org – PR 4/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – PR 0/10
http://www.bullguard.com – PR 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – PR 2/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – PR 4/10
http://forum.xperts.ro – PR 4/10

So as i said before, all those god damn tools, are just plain unreliable. I think the IT Xperts‘s PR6 prediction by iWebTool (which was the closest guesser, of them all) was just a simple coincidence, and not a simple drop of tehnique.

The XML pagerank output method with which these tools thought to discover the yet unreleased PR, seems to be a new startingpoint for them. But they haven’t yet discovered how exactly this works, and how to extract the pagerank out of all the other variables there.
Owners of the these tools, like iWebTool, RustyBrick, Raketforskning, Futurerank and Seotime should really work to find a better way of cracking the pagerank prediction mistery, which has eluded us all. YET.

Only Google knows your PR guys.

Search results updated on all Bigdaddy DC’s

As i said in this post at Digital Point, all Bigdaddy DC’s are starting to show new results. Old sites of people who had them penalised while Jagger hit, are now regaining their initial positions, or even beter.

The Bigdaddy DC’s are :

Or you can check all three of them simultaniously, by using Tony’s BigDaddy Datacenter Watch Tool.

More-over, up until now, my SEO Directory was some how penalised for something (YES, this website was in DP Ad-Network, before Jagger hit) and it never had more than 5 indexed pages, altough months have passed since his creation, and altough it has thousands of IBLs from PR5 websites.

Well, not it has 90+ pages, all with descriptions and titles, and all is OK.

Another example is my former employer’s website, which i worked on for almoust 1,5 years, which had been very badly struck by Jagger. I lost back then, 95% of all positions (very very competitive #1 positions, in searches of hundreds of milions of pages).

Up until today, the website was exactly in the same phase as one day after Jagger Hit. Well, now ALL the positions i had before Jagger, are back. Positions like :

and many, many others.

After the Jagger penalisation, for the terms above, this website was nowhere to be found. By nowhere i mean not in the first 300 positions. But as I remember, i tried dozens of tools, to even find the website in the first 900. So the website was practically non-existant in Google.

Two of my other websites that got struck by Jagger, a long time ago, are also back on tracks.

This update, came with a new (and very important) other suprise. Another 3 websites i was working on, Server Hosting, Reseller Hosting, and Gazduire ETP, have reached astronomic positions, from nowhere (I did work hard on them, after i took them in my grasps) :

Reseller hosting (#14 out of 82.300.000 results)

Server hosting (#41 out of 338.000.000 results)

Hosting (#11 out of 803.000.000 results) (sweet Gesus mother of GOD)

I’ll let you know more as they come.

Edit: As of 03.00 AM, 04.02.2006, it seems that the results from the Bigdaddy datacenters, have passed on to some of the other DC’s, so you might see the new results, in your average Google .

Pagerank prediction tool test

Well.. I have to do this too. Everybody in DP and SeoPedia keeps bugging me about these Pagerank prediction tools.

I decided to take on the iWebTool, RustyBrick, Raketforskning, Futurerank and Seotime Pagerank Prediction Tools . Now i always thought the Rustybrick tool as being a toy. It regularly gives PR10 predictions for numerous websites (which is rather weird and totally not possible). With the newly emerged iWebTool, things might change (as far as i can see they use a fairly organic prediction method, using own internal Google PR calculation schemes).

And from what i noticed (i am pretty sure about this) the last 4 tools (all except Rustybrick) use the same method for the PR prediction. Just that Futurerank actually shows you predictions for each of the cheked DC’s, while Seotime, Rakerforskning and iWebTool automatically choose the highest prediction from all the DC’s.

I still think Rustybrick is the most deceptive of them all, showing really impossible results. The others are at least “human”.

Results for a lot of 10 websites i own/administrate or had/have contact with:

Current Google Toolbar Pagerank for the test websites :

http://www.xperts.ro – PR 5/10
http://www.webxperience.org – PR 5/10
http://www.lamit.ro – PR 5/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – PR 4/10
http://www.seopedia.org – PR 0/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – PR 0/10
http://www.bullguard.com – PR 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – PR 0/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – PR 4/10
http://forum.xperts.ro – PR 4/10

iWebTool Google Pagerank Prediction Tool :

http://www.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction 6/10
http://www.webxperience.org – Pagerank Prediction 6/10
http://www.lamit.ro – Pagerank Prediction 6/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – Pagerank Prediction 5/10
http://www.seopedia.org – Pagerank Prediction 5/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – Pagerank Prediction 5/10
http://www.bullguard.com – Pagerank Prediction 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – Pagerank Prediction 3/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction unknown
http://forum.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction 5/10

RustyBrick Google Pagerank Prediction Tool :

http://www.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction 5/10
http://www.webxperience.org – Pagerank Prediction 10/10
http://www.lamit.ro – Pagerank Prediction 10/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – Pagerank Prediction 4/10
http://www.seopedia.org – Pagerank Prediction 0/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – Pagerank Prediction 0/10
http://www.bullguard.com – Pagerank Prediction 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – Pagerank Prediction 0/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction 4/10
http://forum.xperts.ro – Pagerank Prediction 4/10

Raketforskning Live Pagerank Tool (thanks to Martin from Raketforskning who informed me about his tool):

http://www.xperts.ro – Live Pagerank 5/10
http://www.webxperience.org – Live Pagerank 4/10
http://www.lamit.ro – Live Pagerank 5/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – Live Pagerank unknown
http://www.seopedia.org – Live Pagerank 5/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – Live Pagerank 4/10
http://www.bullguard.com – Live Pagerank 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – Live Pagerank 3/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – Live Pagerank 4/10
http://forum.xperts.ro – Live Pagerank 4/10

Futurerank, future PR prediction tool (I noted the highest and the lowest assumption, as this tool searches and provides results for several datacenters):

http://www.xperts.ro – Future rank : Lowest 3 ; Highest 6
http://www.webxperience.org – Future rank : Lowest 4 ; Highest 6
http://www.lamit.ro – Future rank : Lowest 2 ; Highest 6
http://www.seo-xperts.com – Future rank : Lowest 3 ; Highest 3
http://www.seopedia.org – Future rank : Lowest 2 ; Highest 5
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – Future rank : Lowest 3 ; Highest 4
http://www.bullguard.com – Future rank : Lowest 7 ; Highest 7
http://www.teste-seo.ro – Future rank : Lowest 0 ; Highest 4
http://directory.xperts.ro – Future rank : Lowest 4 ; Highest 5
http://forum.xperts.ro – Future rank : Lowest 4 ; Highest 5

Seotime Google Pagerank Prediction tool :

http://www.xperts.ro – Predicted Pagerank 6/10
http://www.webxperience.org – Predicted Pagerank 6/10
http://www.lamit.ro – Predicted Pagerank 6/10
http://www.seo-xperts.com – Predicted Pagerank 5/10
http://www.seopedia.org – Predicted Pagerank 5/10
http://www.fight-plagiarism.org – Predicted Pagerank unknown
http://www.bullguard.com – Predicted Pagerank 7/10
http://www.teste-seo.ro – Predicted Pagerank 3/10
http://directory.xperts.ro – Predicted Pagerank unknown
http://forum.xperts.ro – Predicted Pagerank unknown

There is another pagerank prediction tool, proudly found and researched by Roman1 over at Digital Point forums, based on Dmoz as well as the Google Directory (the website must be in DMOZ for this “prediction tool” to be viable) and Digitalpoint members have all been trying to figure it out. Since all my websites or the websites i have in DMOZ are either not calculable trough this method, or don’t have enough sorrounding category websites to achive the prediction, i can’t say my thing. I’ll watch the outcome though.

Ah… I never trusted such tools, but all that remains to me now, with just days, or weeks before this PR update, is to wait and see the results.

I’ll publish them here.